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2100-65 buzzes in standby

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Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 04:57 pm:   

I have some bleed coming from somewhere. I replaced the filter caps and the caps on the rectifier board. This is a SS model. I still have a buzz under the tone on hi or lo and the buzz is there on standby.
Any suggestions?
Lars Verholt (lmv)
Username: lmv

Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 06:13 pm:   

Hi Cyle,

if we assume that your standby switch works correctly, there should be no B+ on the output tubes and hence no sound whatsoever coming out of the speaker in standby.

Do you still hear the buzz if you unplug the speaker from the amp? If you do, you need to start checking voltages in the amp to ensure that the power supply is operating correctly. You could have a faulty standby switch that could cause some peculiar symptoms.

Sincerely,
Lars Verholt
www.captain-foldback.com
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   

It's not a constant buzz. It's a faint distorted undertone of whatever you happen to be playing in Hi or Lo & you still hear it on standby.
Mike Kaus (mm210)
Username: mm210

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 07:59 am:   

Do you hear it JUST after turning it to standby? What I mean is, does it continue to do it for a long time or just a few seconds? The caps COULD be charged up and just take time to disipate the voltage or does it do it after several minutes of playing on standby? Mike.
Lars Verholt (lmv)
Username: lmv

Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 08:23 pm:   

Sounds like you have crossover distortion going on. Time to check for leaking caps.

Sincerely,
Lars Verholt
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 11:09 am:   

It never goes away. Like I said, I've replaced the filter caps and the caps on the recto board. I'm gonna try replacing the electrolytics on the preamp board to see if it helps. If not, I'm wondering if it could be some sort of bias issue, I've never had it checked.
Lars Verholt (lmv)
Username: lmv

Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 11:31 am:   

Hi Cyle,

yes - the bias may need adjustment. The only way to get to the bottom of it is to get a 'scope on it. Anyway, if one of the coupling caps before the driver transistors is leaking (as in DC leakage), adjusting the bias may not solve the issue. A few mV offset caused by a defective cap makes a relatively large difference in this particular amp design.

Cheers,
Lars Verholt
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 09:21 pm:   

Hopefully, changing the blue electrolytic caps on the preamp board will do it. If not, it's for sale.
Mike Kaus (mm210)
Username: mm210

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 06:00 am:   

With all the work you've already put into it, THAT would be a shame.
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 07:54 pm:   

It's leaking DC voltage to the Chassis, just can't figure out where it's coming from.
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:42 am:   

Still searching
Mike Kaus (mm210)
Username: mm210

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 04:29 pm:   

How much dc voltage are we talking? A few mV or a crapload?
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 10:19 am:   

All 16v
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 03:35 pm:   

Finally changed the caps on the preamp board, cleaned the bias pot and set the bias. All better.
Mike Kaus (mm210)
Username: mm210

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 10:47 am:   

Good-glad to hear it. Did it clean up all the bleed? Mike
Cyle Ritchie (cyleritchie)
Username: cyleritchie

Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:32 am:   

Yep. Like new. Now I need a back panel