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210 HD 130 newbie

Sounds Great! Was at Guitar Center 2 days ago and saw it behind the counter..Wanted a small powerhouse for a long time..I know nothing of MM amps, but fell in love with the tone when I plugged in a nice strat ....Sounded great and bought it before he tagged it and put it on the floor. No rips, no rust.There is a sketched date inside on a board reads 10/14..wonder if a tech got to it..love any info-.What would I need to do to keep it worry free?

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Holy crap Batman- a 2-10 130

Holy crap Batman- a 2-10 130 with jbls! THAT MOFO is heavy! Those filter caps need to be replaced pronto. I would suggest replacing ALL the elctrolytics in the amp (the silver tubular ones), and make SURE you replace the ones on the bias supply board. That amp has the SS driver so it's a little more stable than the tube driver versions but those look like the original 6CA7's from like 1978 so they could be a sore spot. Mike.

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Thanks for the update..it's

Thanks for the update..it's heavy, but small enough to get around somewhat easily...i'll search the site for the list of caps..Antique Audio Supply is having a sale, may be the right time to score caps.

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Anyone using Electro Harmonix

Anyone using Electro Harmonix 6ca7 reissues ?

lmv

If it ain't broke...

Nice find! Welcome to the forum.

If it sounds good, why not just play it and enjoy it? There is a big difference between a Music Man amp from the late 70's and a Fender amp from 1963 - it's not a given that you will get any difference in sound or stability by changing the caps at this point.
It would appear that your amp has been converted from the original 12AX7 phase splitter to the later transistor driver setup in 1980 (as noted inside your chassis). One telltale sign is that you have the 2 x 20uF capacitors in the metal can. The later amps lack these.
If the amp starts sounding muddy or noisy, or if you get hum from the speaker - then yes, it's time to put a set of Sprague Atoms in there and, as Mike '210' Kaus pointed out, replace a few key components. The 150k resistors on the rectifier board, all four 150uF filter capacitors in the low voltage section are good places to start. The zener diodes in the +/- 16V supply may also be replaced - but then again, your amp is a slightly later one and was gone over in 1980 at Music Man (one would assume). Anyway - as I stated before, if it sounds great - well, then - great! Take a polishing cloth to it, get a cover for it (if not already equipped) and enjoy. Those JBL speakers look interesting for sure. One can only speculate if they were a special order item or were added later. If you look at the speakers for date codes, that could solve that mystery.

Cheers,
Lars Verholt

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It sounds amazing..really..no

It sounds amazing..really..no niggles that I can hear..I very much appreciate the input from the forum members..I'll look for date codes on the JBL's..ps..old tubes..how long can they go...?

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Depends on how much they were

Depends on how much they were used. I've got original 6CA7's here that are new with only a few hours on them so THEY are in great shape. I will say that those tubes will last a hell of a lot longer than any new production tubes. If it sounds good, play it. I sure wouldn't replace them just because they are old (so am I) Mike.

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I'm down with what you are

I'm down with what you are saying..I gig up to 8x a month, so I'm sure, before i know it, I'll have a handle on what needs to be done to the amp. 1st gig with it this Friday, Halloween show, hope the sparks don't fly!
Steve

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In case you haven't read it

In case you haven't read it yet, you might go to to the maintenance section and read the bias setting procedure for the SS driver amps and check it. Its pretty simple and you can at least check the drive section to see if it's running hot or not. Mike.

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Can I trouble u for the link,

Can I trouble u for the link, can't find the post re: how to bias..I have the euro tubes tester for my DVM..
Thx.

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http://www.pacair.com/mmamps3

http://www.pacair.com/mmamps3/sites/default/files/docs/MM%20Service%20Bu...

You won't need the tester for this procedure. You are measuring the voltage on fixed resistors on the driver board. Mike.

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21.9mV, 21.1.mV..Whoever had

21.9mV, 21.1.mV..Whoever had this amp before me kept it well. I'm happy with those readings, I'm happy the tubes are vintage, it sounds mint..no touchy!

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Those are very balanced

Those are very balanced readings. I've seen them WAY apart and still be great. I had one (my own at the time) that the driver transistors were WAY apart and it distorted to beat the band. If your are that close, y'all is in great shape. Mike.

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Appreciate the support.

Appreciate the support.

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Great gig on Saturday night,

Great gig on Saturday night, the Music Man held up just fine..Using a Strat with a tube screamer &Timmy, I was able to really draw some nice harmonic content/feedback at reasonable levels. Of course the clean sound was mint.. Leo sure knew his stuff!

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